. >> host: who is steve rogers who you interview here? >> guest: steve rogers from chicago is a professor at the kellogg school of management at northwestern university. >> host: what was his connection with president obama? >> guest: like many african americans, businessmen and leaders who i interviewed, he was an early backer and supporter of obama. after obama lost a congressional primary to bobby rush in 2000, rush is a former black panther, now a congressman, he was deeply in debt, he went around looking for people to donate money to his cause and steve rogers, very successful businessman at that time before he became a professor gave him $6,000 to pay off some of his personal debts. in return obama promised that he would visit steve rogers and if he won a u.s. senate seat and speak to them so he did win the u.s. senate seat. rogers never heard from him. he called up and asked obama what he come? obama said i am too busy. i am getting phone calls from warren buffett and steve jobs and bill gates and all these important people and rog